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I've seen that you have been updating events with the parser output form Hairy Dude. PLease note that it is note perfect, and need future handwork. For example this edit destroyed mtth parameter and broke years with some space. Perhaps add Computer Generated Template each time you update it this way? [[User:Puchacz|Puchacz]] ([[User talk:Puchacz|talk]]) 15:10, 7 January 2016 (CET)
 
I've seen that you have been updating events with the parser output form Hairy Dude. PLease note that it is note perfect, and need future handwork. For example this edit destroyed mtth parameter and broke years with some space. Perhaps add Computer Generated Template each time you update it this way? [[User:Puchacz|Puchacz]] ([[User talk:Puchacz|talk]]) 15:10, 7 January 2016 (CET)
 
: I've been trying to catch them, obviously I missed on. I know its not perfect but I've been using about 1/20 pages after eliminating ones with more serious issues. Hopefully a fully ready parser will be along soon. [[User:Dauth|Dauth]] ([[User talk:Dauth|talk]]) 15:16, 7 January 2016 (CET)
 
: I've been trying to catch them, obviously I missed on. I know its not perfect but I've been using about 1/20 pages after eliminating ones with more serious issues. Hopefully a fully ready parser will be along soon. [[User:Dauth|Dauth]] ([[User talk:Dauth|talk]]) 15:16, 7 January 2016 (CET)
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:: Well, it is very hard to make a perfect parser, and Hairy Dude did a great job. I really like about this one that HD added event id in commented page, which would help in updating. And btw, about Saxony, I believe that it was enough to just change 1.13 to 1.14, as event was not changed ;) (judging form the result). [[User:Puchacz|Puchacz]] ([[User talk:Puchacz|talk]]) 15:50, 7 January 2016 (CET)

Revision as of 14:51, 7 January 2016

Ambox Links

You have added the {{Links}} ambox to some articles. The text says: Some of the internal links on this page may not be written correctly., but on some marked pages there are no links at all, e.g. Wallachia. Do you want to criticize the lack of internal links on these pages? If so, perhaps the {{Copy edit}} ambox with the reason ‘absence of links’ (or something) is a better choice. – Lillebror (talk) 08:23, 20 May 2015 (CEST)

Probably right. I'll change them when I get the chance. Dauth (talk) 09:51, 20 May 2015 (CEST)

Rollout

Let me handle the rollout. I can mostly automate it, and I want to possibly tweak a couple of things first. ~ Meneth (talk) 22:52, 13 June 2015 (CEST)

No worries, will stop now. Dauth (talk) 22:52, 13 June 2015 (CEST)

Event pages

Add assessment to those event pages when you're done, would you? ~ Meneth (talk) 16:16, 3 July 2015 (CEST)

Will do. Quick question is it worth building a ambox for Needs boxing to indicate events/decisions which need to be put into the pretty box format? Current plan is to put these in C unless you would recommend B instead. Dauth (talk) 16:18, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
They go in "list", not a letter grade ;)
We could probably use an ambox for computer-generated pages, yeah.
You might want to use my Java parser rather than my Python parser if you've got the development environment for that. At this point it's better.
Still WIP though, so haven't actually made a JAR or anything like that, so you do need an IDE or compiler to run it, and would have to first edit in the correct path (currently hardcoded).
It's available here: https://github.com/Meneth/JParser ~ Meneth (talk) 16:21, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
I'll stick with the python one, I'll also do the same for decisions soon. Dauth (talk) 16:23, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
That's fine.
Once it's runnable without a development environment, I'll stick it on the Project:Parser page. No real timeline for that though; I'm rewriting it mostly to pass time. ~ Meneth (talk) 16:24, 3 July 2015 (CEST)

I could upload the output from my Java parser to MediaFire, perhaps? ~ Meneth (talk) 16:30, 3 July 2015 (CEST)

If you think it will be faster then I'm happy to use that as the input instead. Dauth (talk) 16:31, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
Here you go: http://www.mediafire.com/download/z5wtbnbb1cp466b/output.7z
Should be essentially no missing localisation there, unlike say, Women in History events. Far fewer unlocalised commands/conditions too (should be 4 total out of about 1000. ~250 less than the Python parser).
~ Meneth (talk) 16:46, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
Cheers, will continue with this and if needed go over the older ones too. Any ideas what we should call this future ambox? Dauth (talk) 16:48, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
"Computer generated content" might work? ~ Meneth (talk) 16:49, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
Sounds good to me, I'll put in the link and we can build the template later. Dauth (talk) 16:50, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
Sounds good. Might as well just drop the "content" bit I think. ~ Meneth (talk) 16:51, 3 July 2015 (CEST)

Events

I think you missed AoWEvent.txt; do you have updated event in version 1.12.2? Stigni (talk) 20:26, 3 July 2015 (CEST)

I have the file I'll go update it now. Dauth (talk) 20:59, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
They were two different question. If every event list is update with 1.12.2, I can update everything to 1.13.beta only looking at the differences between 1.12.2 and 1.13.beta (I have only these two version on GitHub). Stigni (talk) 21:32, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
I do have everything in the 1.12 version but its in the non-boxed format which means we're going to lose a lot of work. Hence I only used it for new pages and not correcting old ones. How many events pages need an update to 1.12? Dauth (talk) 21:33, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
There is 41 [[* events]] pages with 1.11 version and 1 with 1.10 version. Stigni (talk) 21:39, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
That's quite a few, I'll get on with them. I think the Milanese page is also 1.8. Dauth (talk) 21:41, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
Note that I've spotted more localisation issues and the like.
Here's output with most of that fixed: http://www.mediafire.com/download/z5wtbnbb1cp466b/output.7z
You wouldn't believe how easy localisation is to fuck up. ~ Meneth (talk) 22:57, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
I may have another go at this, Stigni was also going to do some work too I think. Dauth (talk) 23:26, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
If you're gonna redo stuff, please do wait until the parser is in a better state, unless you feel like wasting time. I continually find issues. It's already better than the old Python parser, but there's still plenty of issues.
It is very much WIP. I'll work more on it tomorrow, but now it's getting late and I'm tired. ~ Meneth (talk) 23:29, 3 July 2015 (CEST)
No worries, we can hold off. This does at least give us a bit more completion on the wiki. We could also do with the parsed decisions files too. Dauth (talk) 23:30, 3 July 2015 (CEST)

(Unindent) The Java version can't handle decisions yet. That'll be the next step once I'm reasonably happy with event parsing. Based on what I remember from making the Python version though, it should be simple enough. ~ Meneth (talk) 23:38, 3 July 2015 (CEST)

Formation Decision

I don't understand what you want to do with Formation Decision. If you could explaine your idea, maybe I could help. Stigni (talk) 11:33, 13 July 2015 (CEST)

If you look at the Decisions page I added a lot of redlinks for the formation decisions for several nations. They may already exist on the nation page or they may need to be added. For example its possible to form Spain militarily or diplomatically, those are two decisions which we need to have explained. They exist on the Spain page but there was no link on the decisions page. A lot of them may we just involved linking to the proper pages. Does this help clarify? Dauth (talk) 11:49, 13 July 2015 (CEST)

Computer generated pages

You have added a lot of computer generated pages. Most of the terms dealing with manpower are not correct. Perhaps you can improve your skript. – Lillebror (talk) 09:31, 23 July 2015 (CEST)

A lot are on Meneth's parser, let me know where the errors are and I'll got have a look too. Dauth (talk) 10:01, 23 July 2015 (CEST)
Oh, I thought my description was good enough. During my edits of the Charruan events I recognised it. (The event French Wars of Religion is an good example, errors in effects and triggers.) – Lillebror (talk) 12:09, 23 July 2015 (CEST)
The events were with Meneth's unrelased java parser which he ran for me and I grabbed the output. I'll double check a few of the computer generated ones. Dauth (talk) 12:23, 23 July 2015 (CEST)
I've fixed the manpower localisation in my parser now. Latest output: http://www.mediafire.com/download/wus50w59tta7pea/output%282%29.7z. Haven't worked on the parser for about two weeks now, so should be relatively stable.
All tokens found in events are at this point localised. ~ Meneth (talk) 12:32, 23 July 2015 (CEST)
Every single file has changed, I can copy them all over since this is the only way to guarantee I've got everything. Unless someone has a more elegant plan? Dauth (talk) 21:27, 23 July 2015 (CEST)
Would work I suppose. BTW, I've updated it so that anyone with Java installed should be able to run it. I've also made a wiki page for it: Project:JParser. The actual output should be the same as I linked above though. ~ Meneth (talk) 14:25, 25 July 2015 (CEST)
I've been using the output, Lillebror can you identify a search term to id the screwed up manpower? I think base manpower may be the one that's wrong but could do with confirmation. Dauth (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2015 (CEST)
"manpower" was wrong. You can see the fix I did here: https://github.com/Meneth/JParser/commit/29580f2ef47f38cb5b89d96b86ec739859afa1a2. ~ Meneth (talk) 15:19, 25 July 2015 (CEST)
Oh and it was localised identically to "base_manpower", so a search and replace can't fix that I'm afraid, only tell you where it *might* be wrong. ~ Meneth (talk) 15:20, 25 July 2015 (CEST)
I'll dump new output on anywhere where I can find base manpower on the created events page, doesn't seem to be too many left. Dauth (talk) 15:21, 25 July 2015 (CEST)

(Unindent) That should do it, yeah. ~ Meneth (talk) 15:22, 25 July 2015 (CEST)

Done, I'm sure we could benefit from more copied but it can wait until we're done with the organised approach work. Dauth (talk) 15:34, 25 July 2015 (CEST)
Yeah. On the plus side, your edits made me find an encoding issue in the parser: "Named per brahe den 孤re". That show now be correctly displayed as "Named Per Brahe den äldre" (the capitalization thing wasn't an encoding issue, but I fixed that as well while I was at it. Also fixes the DLC names being all in lower case, and a few similar minor issues). ~ Meneth (talk) 16:15, 25 July 2015 (CEST)
Sorry I had not the time to deal with this issue last weak. Hopefully this week... – Lillebror (talk) 08:38, 26 July 2015 (CEST)

Signatures

The easiest way to tell people to sign is by using the unsigned template. In that case: {{subst:unsigned|AkwatiKata|20:18, 27 July 2015 (CEST)}}. I don't think I've seen anyone keep forgetting to sign after the unsigned template has been used, plus it solves the immediate issue on the talk page as well. ~ Meneth (talk) 20:27, 27 July 2015 (CEST)

Country navbox

OK. Who is allowed to rate articles? I have wrote Norwegian Wood some time ago (spend some time on the map), and it doesn't have any rating yet. Puchacz (talk) 14:03, 4 September 2015 (CEST)

I do most of the rating. Occasionally Dauth or Lillebror rates an article as well.
I've given Norwegian Wood a B now; looks pretty solid. Didn't see it when it was first created, sorry. ~ Meneth (talk) 14:05, 4 September 2015 (CEST)

Old Images

I'm trying to clean up some of the old images/screenshots that are still marked as 1.6 to 1.10. How do I mark the old images for deletion? Asking here because I noticed Dauth cleaned up behind me and got rid of two of them. You can also do your magic on www.eu4wiki.com/File:Eu4_Revolts_table.PNG in a moment. --Rendiggy (talk) 13:42, 3 October 2015 (CEST)

It would be better if you were to upload new versions over the old ones that would mean I didn't need to delete the older one. To make for delete use the delete template {{delete|}} and type your reason after the | . Dauth (talk) 14:06, 3 October 2015 (CEST)
I tried uploading an updated version originally, but it wouldn't accept the file. I'll try to figure out what the issue was. --Rendiggy (talk) 14:43, 3 October 2015 (CEST)
Was it perhaps a different format? A JPG file can only be replaced with another JPG file. A PNG file can only be replaced with another PNG file. ~ Meneth (talk) 14:47, 3 October 2015 (CEST)
Super speed admins typing before I get there. Dauth (talk) 14:49, 3 October 2015 (CEST)
If you can't convert the files just upload what you have and I'll delete the ones they replace. Meneth can we install imagemagik or the like on the server? Dauth (talk) 16:16, 3 October 2015 (CEST)

Time stamps

The wiki doesn't seem to use the same time zone across the system which is honestly quite confusing. For example, the signatures on the Discussion pages will show one time while the Recent changes will show another. Is it possible to streamline the situation? ~ SolSys (talk) 11:32, 14 December 2015 (CET)

I don't know, that's something to ask Meneth, if it helps I'm currently on CET and all the times look fine to me. Try looking at the time settings in your preferences. Dauth (talk) 11:40, 14 December 2015 (CET)
The Talk pages use hardcoded timestamps, inserted as plain text when you sign a comment. This timestamp uses CET/CEST; the time zone the server is configured to use as it is in Amsterdam, and I'm in Norway.
All (AFAIK) other pages use dynamic timestamps however, based on the time zone you're personally in. This can be changed in your preferences.
So if you want complete consistency, you can switch the time zone used over to CET in your preferences. ~ Meneth (talk) 11:43, 14 December 2015 (CET)
Sounds like a plan. Thanks. ~ SolSys (talk) 12:04, 14 December 2015 (CET)

Events template from parser

http://www.eu4wiki.com/index.php?title=Saxony&type=revision&diff=63822&oldid=61396

I've seen that you have been updating events with the parser output form Hairy Dude. PLease note that it is note perfect, and need future handwork. For example this edit destroyed mtth parameter and broke years with some space. Perhaps add Computer Generated Template each time you update it this way? Puchacz (talk) 15:10, 7 January 2016 (CET)

I've been trying to catch them, obviously I missed on. I know its not perfect but I've been using about 1/20 pages after eliminating ones with more serious issues. Hopefully a fully ready parser will be along soon. Dauth (talk) 15:16, 7 January 2016 (CET)
Well, it is very hard to make a perfect parser, and Hairy Dude did a great job. I really like about this one that HD added event id in commented page, which would help in updating. And btw, about Saxony, I believe that it was enough to just change 1.13 to 1.14, as event was not changed ;) (judging form the result). Puchacz (talk) 15:50, 7 January 2016 (CET)