User talk:Zraith

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File uploads[edit]

When uploading a new version of a file that's got versioning, please update the version number. Thanks, ~ Meneth (talk) 12:11, 6 December 2015 (CET)

Regions pages[edit]

The plan for the regions pages is to list the countries that they are the home region of. This is to counteract the current regions pages. A country has its home region is the default capital of the country is in that region. As for the province list you've started on, that information is already on the List of provinces. Thanks for the effort. Dauth (talk) 23:56, 7 December 2015 (CET)

Can't quite grasp what you mean, especially "A country has its home region is the default capital of the country is in that region." You mean to redo the regions pages (ex. Germanic region) or you mean to redo the Regions page and its subpages (European regions) to list the countries that are in the redone region groups? Zraith (talk) 03:10, 8 December 2015 (CET)
Moved your comment onto here, mainly so that other people can follow the thread. Yes the plan is to redo pages like the Germanic region, which in the current version is called the German region. In the future all countries where the capital is in the German region will be listed on the German region page. Does this make more sense? Dauth (talk) 09:34, 8 December 2015 (CET)
Is the country section in addition to province/area section? I know we have the List of provinces, but that page is quite big on load time. Having them listed in individual region pages can help ease of use [and also add a few icons on the way]. SolSys (talk) 10:56, 8 December 2015 (CET)
This was my reasoning as well for creating the individual region pages with the accompanying provinces. Though with what Dauth said that the country region pages need to be redone as well, we could potentially combine the two instead of having 2 separate 'region' pages. List the provinces with a map as in my demo and have the notable/formable states and states by culture at the bottom of pages (or the opposite way). Zraith (talk) 15:41, 8 December 2015 (CET)
The big drawback of listing them on the region pages is that that adds redundancy, which means more that has to be updated each version. Consolidation is an important part of why this wiki is as good as it is, and duplication except via transclusion should be avoided when possible. Since transclusion isn't reasonably possible in this situation, duplication should be avoided entirely unless there's a highly compelling reason to do so. ~ Meneth (talk) 15:43, 8 December 2015 (CET)
Since the List of provinces is already computer generated I can tweak it further to create individual region pages with in-page separation for areas. Before this can be done though it's best to decide on what kind of format you want them to be in. This can - unfortunately - create a little problem if in one of the updates the region name was changed as the old files would remain as well. EDIT: I can ran a check and automatically delete files not of that date, but there will still be an issue with outside links to that page. That would require manual change or at the very least create a "change a->b list" and set a bot to go over the wiki to do the changes SolSys (talk) 11:45, 9 December 2015 (CET)
Sounds overly complicated, and prone to failure if you were to disappear (as many wiki editors have done over the 3+ years I've been running wikis). I don't see a pressing need for more province lists.
So unless Dauth or Lillebror really want it, I don't think it should be done. ~ Meneth (talk) 12:13, 9 December 2015 (CET)
Well, less work for me then. But now I'm worried for my well-being.
What happens to wiki editors precisely? And should I stop before I find myself locked in the basement of some Byz-fanatic? SolSys (talk) 13:26, 9 December 2015 (CET)
Presumably they find other hobbies, or real life gets in the way.
Though a basement can probably be arranged if you're into that. ~ Meneth (talk) 13:36, 9 December 2015 (CET)
Well, the list is sortable by region and areas - because provinces now belong to a single region and a single area. But the list is long. You have to sort the list and then to search the entries you are looking for. For me the main disadvantage of only one big list of provinces is that we can not have links to regions and areas from events, missions, decisions and achievements. For example, where to link Britain (region) of the Luck of the Irish achievement? Every user has to do the sorting and searching every time the user wants to know which provinces belong to a certain region. – Lillebror (talk) 14:08, 9 December 2015 (CET)
Yes, it does make more sense. Thanks. Should it follow the same basic outline as the existing ones where it lists the notable, formable states and then states by culture? Or should there be additions to the information provided on such pages? Zraith (talk) 13:26, 8 December 2015 (CET)
Yes, that general idea is good. Though unlike the current system, notable/formable countries should also be listed in the "by culture" lists; there's no real reason to leave it out, and I don't really remember why it was done to begin with. Whatever they were, I'm pretty sure they no longer apply. ~ Meneth (talk) 13:49, 8 December 2015 (CET)
Most formable nations can be formed by more then one culture, so it's likely to be the reason [unless you wanted to list them by culture groups?]. SolSys (talk) 14:56, 8 December 2015 (CET)
Yeah, formable nations shouldn't be listed. Notable ones should tho. ~ Meneth (talk) 14:57, 8 December 2015 (CET)
I have a rough draft of the African Super-Region incorporating the suggested changes + some of my own.
Would like to here what you folks have to say. Any comments should be in its discussion page. SolSys (talk) 00:41, 11 December 2015 (CET)

I think is better to keep the list of province and a list splitted by region/area like European regions because a lot of event/decision/mission/victory card link to a specific area/region so it could be useful have a section for each area. Stigni (talk) 12:50, 9 December 2015 (CET)

Map request[edit]

Hi, I would like your help with another map request if you have the time.

Can you produce a map of eastern Europe with following regions colored [like the super-regions maps]:

  • Balkans (region), Baltic (region), Carpathia (region), Crimea (region), Poland (region), Russia (region), Ruthenia (region).

~ SolSys (talk) 20:26, 23 December 2015 (CET)

East Europe Done Zraith (talk) 01:05, 24 December 2015 (CET)
Thanks :) ~ SolSys (talk) 11:13, 24 December 2015 (CET)

Hi again. I have another map request if you are free.

The map is for the following Asian regions:

  • Central Asia (region), Japan (region), Korea (region), Manchuria (region), Mongolia (region), Siberia (region), Tibet (region).

Also, if you have a good name for this page it would be helpful. ~ SolSys (talk) 11:34, 27 December 2015 (CET)

Sorry it took so long to respond back, I either didn't receive a notification about a change on here or didn't notice it. Here it is Greater Asia. As for naming, can't really think of any names besides Upper Asia, but Greater Asia sounds good. Zraith (talk) 19:06, 1 January 2016 (CET)
That's not a problem at all; I assumed you would be too busy with the holidays [or something] as it is. Thanks for the map, it looks great. Edit: Upper Asia is actually good. Should have thought on it :/ [the closest I got was Northern Asia]. ~ SolSys (talk) 20:45, 1 January 2016 (CET)
Made one for Oceania (Australia, New Zealand and Oceanea) as well in case you need one. Zraith (talk) 01:14, 3 January 2016 (CET)
Thanks, I would probably get to it soon. ~ SolSys (talk) 11:22, 3 January 2016 (CET)
Could you change color for NZ? It look the same as Indonesia's one. Stigni (talk) 11:24, 3 January 2016 (CET)

Terrain map[edit]

You've made a very nice terrain map used on Land_warfare#Terrain, could it be updated with a different colour blue for inland seas? Like in some of the earlier versions of the file. If so we can then use that image for naval warfare too. If its easier to start from a blank map and make a new inland sea/ open ocean one then that's good too. Dauth (talk) 22:00, 30 January 2016 (CET)

All set. Does the color for Inland Sea provinces work or should it be changed? Zraith (talk) 03:14, 31 January 2016 (CET)
Brilliant thanks. Exactly what I was after. Dauth (talk) 10:23, 31 January 2016 (CET)

Area maps[edit]

You mentioned earlier that you'd be willing to make area maps within regions. I think it would be a good idea, especially if you can provide them with legends. Thanks Dauth (talk) 15:41, 4 February 2016 (CET)

I think Zraith already did so, isn't this the areas map? ~ SolSys (talk) 16:27, 4 February 2016 (CET)
Areas map.png
True, and may I say that is beautiful, however if we are to put images on the regions sections of superregion pages then we need smaller more focused images with legends. Dauth (talk) 16:56, 4 February 2016 (CET)
Do you want built-in legends (part of the image) or similar legends to the ones already in use for the super-region images? Zraith (talk) 22:53, 4 February 2016 (CET)
The method you have for super-regions looks good. Dauth (talk) 10:07, 5 February 2016 (CET)
The maps can be found in Category:Area Maps, starting with Europe then will do Africa, S & N America, ..., leaving Asia for last. While I was doing them, did a little organizing in Category:Map images, creating subcategories for Areas, Regions and Superregions and moving the images to the appropriate category. Zraith (talk) 04:34, 6 February 2016 (CET)
Area maps should be all done now. They can be found in Category:Area Maps. Zraith (talk) 01:22, 29 February 2016 (CET)
Many thanks. I'll get adding them to the pages put on the work needed list. Dauth (talk) 10:55, 29 February 2016 (CET)

Countries image[edit]

The image that you have uploaded yesterday is not 1.16. Stigni (talk) 11:50, 8 April 2016 (CEST)

Yes it is. None of the previous patches have the Kuba or Luba. I think that Stigni may need to use Ctrl+Shift+R on the image page to force refresh of it, otherwise it will display the old out of date cached version. Dauth (talk) 12:06, 8 April 2016 (CEST)
Oops, I am sorry. I forgot to clean the cache. My fault. Stigni (talk) 12:15, 8 April 2016 (CEST)
It appears that I did a mistake on it as well, there's some country colored wasteland that I didn't catch when I was working on it. Zraith (talk) 15:46, 8 April 2016 (CEST)

A little question[edit]

Hello,how did you make this image? http://www.eu4wiki.com/images/b/b1/Religion.PNG