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Can Orthodox convert to Catholic[edit]

Any information if it's possible for orthodox to convert to catholic\protestant and vice versa?

No, it's not possible. It's in the manual. Stilgar (talk) 16:30, 3 August 2013 (CEST)
Thanks. Sorry, but where is the manual?
You can get it from your DRM (Steam and/or UPlay) or Paradox official forum.
Does the event Spread of Protentantism 02 not mean that orthodox can become protestant? Damarow (talk) 21:34, 24 August 2013 (CEST)
Yes it does :P Orthodox provinces can convert to protestant through the reformation. Damarow (talk) 12:43, 25 August 2013 (CEST)

Event Files of the reformation[edit]

I've made a page: Protestant events --Evil4Zerggin (talk) 19:46, 25 August 2013 (CEST)

Findings[edit]

Hello, I'm not experienced in reading the syntax of paradox code, so there may be errors in the translations. You can read the original code on my user page. Some conditions are not translated, because I don't know what they mean. Feel free to share your knowlede :) Damarow (talk) 12:41, 25 August 2013 (CEST)

Zoroastrian gives +10% missionary strength?[edit]

Is this correct? If so that is an overpowered stat for a religion to have. KaTiON (talk) 02:03, 25 August 2013 (CEST)

Well it comes from CK2, so I guess there are no files for that in the EU4 event folder? Damarow (talk) 11:16, 25 August 2013 (CEST)
It's actually a negative modifier, gives +10% modifier to other religions when converting Zoroastrian provinces to their religion (ie. a reverse of the -2% that Sunni gets, it's a +10%). I hope it's a bug, since it makes the Zoroastrian religion really bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.195.209.66 (talk) 19:59, 10 September 2013
I seriously doubt it's a bug. It's like any of the other historical maluses or bonuses, such as the tech group distribution or how the Latin and Iberian cultures tend to abandon Catholicism much, much more slowly (if at all) than other Christian culture groups. Considering that in reality people gave up on Zoroastrianism before even the times of CK2 (and under the quite religiously tolerant Muslims no less), a 10% conversion bonus is if anything too little of a malus. Just be glad Paradox didn't give them the kind of maluses that would truly appropriate: Pagan-level nerfing, if not worse. :P — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.131.151.192 (talk) 06:26, 14 September 2013
The mistake is that there's no khurramites in the game, and no possibility to bring it from CK2. In fact, zoroastrian were really old and helpless, but not the iranian heresy, i mean the lineage of manihean-mazdakites-khurramites-etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.100.136.57 (talk) 10:15, 26 September 2013

Chinese Buddhism[edit]

It's a pity there's no chinese buddhism in the game. Chan was very, VERY different to the buddhism in India and Tibet: productive, social-active and so on. It has much more differance with buddhism than ortodox, catholics and protestant.

It *is* a shame, agreed, but as this wiki is unrelated to the game developers, we can't influence the included religions at all here :( --General Baker Great Britain.png (Talk | Contribs) 22:24, 26 September 2013 (CEST)

Is buddhist revival in India possible?[edit]

I mean is there any way to convert an indian state into buddhism? Sri-lanka is so small=(

See: Religion#Missionaries
It seems that taking the religion idea group is essentially compulsory if you plan to do that. After that, work on a stable and secure realm, to minimise political disturbances as you convert.
It'll be tricky though, unless there's some event chain or something that helps Buddhism return to India...
--General Baker Great Britain.png (Talk | Contribs) 11:31, 3 October 2013 (CEST)

Suggestion: split this article up[edit]

I think this article is a little unwieldy as-is. Would suggest the following article structure:

  • Category: Religion
    • Religion
      Introduction, 'Concepts', links to other things
      Missionaries -> {{main|Envoy#Missionary}}
    • Religious denominations
      Listing the different religions.
    • Religious historical events
      See tin.

Thoughts? --General Baker Great Britain.png (Talk | Contribs) 22:04, 5 October 2013 (CEST)

I support this split. --Evil4Zerggin (talk) 22:49, 5 October 2013 (CEST)
Eh sure, why not. Though I think it's best to keep everything related to conversion on this page; the envoy page is essentially just a long disambiguation page in some ways. ~ Meneth (talk) 22:57, 5 October 2013 (CEST)

Heretics, Heathen sections need filling[edit]

See section title. --• General Baker Flag of Great Britain (Talk) • 00:18, 4 November 2013 (CET)

And, actually thinking about it, how was this classed an Featured Article?--• General Baker Flag of Great Britain (Talk) • 14:35, 4 November 2013 (CET)
It has an absolutely immense amount of info, that's why. ~ Meneth (talk) 17:13, 4 November 2013 (CET)
FA Editing Suggestions:
No further content additions should be necessary unless new information becomes available; further improvements to the prose quality are often possible.
There are clearly things to be added here :P I'd call it an A. --• General Baker Flag of Great Britain (Talk) • 17:39, 4 November 2013 (CET)
Eh, only a tiny bit is missing. You should go add it. ~ Meneth (talk) 17:40, 4 November 2013 (CET)

Non-Japanese cultured provinces CAN convert to Shinto without a missionary[edit]

If a country's primary religion is Shinto and has problems with provinces auto-converting to Catholicism (via event), the "Fumi-e" event converts a Catholic province to Shinto (and spawns rebels). Homusubi (talk) 14:45, 31 May 2014 (CEST)

Defender of the Faith & Tech Group[edit]

Can Delhi/Brunei/Mali become Defender of the Faith? If so, it's tied to religion group and religion group alone.

Only denominations in the religious groups: Christian and Muslim can have a Defender of Faith. One country for each of their denominations. So, if Delhi/Brunei/Mali have a Christian or Muslim state religion they can become Defender of Faith. Please sign your comments on talk pages with 4 tildes (~~~~). – Lillebror (talk) 10:03, 7 August 2014 (CEST)
Defender of Faith is a religious theme. It doesn’t depend on technology groups or something else. – Lillebror (talk) 12:50, 7 August 2014 (CEST)
Sorry. – Lillebror (talk) 20:50, 7 August 2014 (CEST)

Tolerance[edit]

I don't really get the following question from the content on the site: If I have +3 tolerance of heretics and my state religion is protestant, I don't get any malus on provinces where the religion is catholic? It's just for my understanding, maybe we should also clarify that on the site. Thanks Skylofter (talk) 13:46, 16 September 2014 (CEST)

bugged intolerance?[edit]

I'm Confucian(tolerance: +4/+1/-2) and I don't get any negative effects from any heathens except Catholic. Even though Hindu, Sikh, Orthodox, Sunni are considered heathens, pop ups for these provinces don't list intolerance. 11:53, 5 January 2015 (CET)

Religious Historical Events page[edit]

I'ved updated the religious historical events. I'm unsure whether I should touch on the 30 year's war, and any help with finding what exactly are the criterias for if a reform center will spread their religion to you. SpreadOfCalvinism/SpreadOfProtestantism in the events folder is blank :o TheWinner (talk) 19:20, 2 November 2014 (CET)

Defender of the Faith and call to arms[edit]

i have edited the Defender of the Faith, adding in which case the DotF get a call to arms. Until now PI didn't say if this is a bug or WAD, anyway i have added how the call to arms currently works (there are several thread in EU forum about that topic in the lasts months) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kente& (talk) 16:31, 4 March 2015

Centers of reformation range[edit]

What are the exact range and conditions(across sea/ocean; non-bordering provinces of the same country; different continent;different geo-political region(europe/asia);etc) for the centers of reformation? Gendalf (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2015 (CEST)

1.12[edit]

Converting a province gives -100% missionary strength for 30 years. Missionary maintenance now increases with years somehow (the interface isn't very descriptive).

btw missionary base strength is always shown as 2% in the hover-over and if you move the slider down to 0% - it will just add a "Missionary slider -2%" modifier. Gendalf (talk) 22:04, 14 June 2015 (CEST)

FA Article outdated[edit]

This article is heavy outdated judging by the 1.10 tags. Maybe remove FA until it is up to date? Puchacz (talk) 10:02, 29 September 2015 (CEST)

I'd agree, though I want another opinion before taking something off the short list of FA articles. Dauth (talk) 10:22, 29 September 2015 (CEST)
Most of FA articles are really disguised lists anyway. Puchacz (talk) 10:26, 29 September 2015 (CEST)

Defender of the Faith in the Westphalian HRE[edit]

Does the Defender of the Faith still get calls to arms against an HRE member if he's also an HRE member and the Peace of Westphalia happened? Hairy Dude (talk) 04:19, 23 August 2017 (CEST)

Making a Defender of the Faith note for Any Loss[edit]

I'm going to update the Defender of the Faith section to make it crystal clear that -any- loss, from any call to arms (allies for instance, even of not the faith), from any war condition (conquest for example), against any foe (Same Religion, Heathen, Heretic) causes the loss of Defender of the Faith. I ran into this in my current playthrough, heh. --BeAuMaN (talk) 04:19, 24 September 2017 (CEST)