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Limit on improved relations[edit]

Improved relations can go over, 100 information here is incorrect.--Frontal nl (talk) 22:40, 15 December 2013 (CET)

The limit for most nation-nation improved relations is +100. The limit for suzerain-vassal improved relations is +200. Not sure how best to incorporate that information into the page. --Pookles (talk) 21:18, 16 December 2013 (CET)
Added a note to the list of modifiers.--E boyd (talk) 23:17, 25 June 2015 (CEST)

What does trust do?[edit]

Just wondering, would be good to have that part expanded on.

Acquire needed attitude[edit]

Would be nice to have a more exact explanation of attitude changes. Like what are exact conditions for reaching friendly attitude, since it's often required for proper offensive wars. Gendalf (talk) 14:29, 7 June 2015 (CEST)

5.1 Improving relations redundant?[edit]

There is a similar section in Diplomacy Diplomacy#Improve_relations which is more up-to-date.--E boyd (talk) 23:25, 25 June 2015 (CEST)

It's relevant to both pages, so it should probably be on both. More up to date info should definitely be carried over though. ~ Meneth (talk) 15:09, 26 June 2015 (CEST)
I completely reworked this section. Instead of copy-pasting Improve Relations section of Diplomacy page I assembled the list of actions available if you want to improve relations. Short descriptions and links to relevant Dimplomacy sections included. Check if it's ok. --E boyd (talk) 23:22, 26 June 2015 (CEST)
Looks good. Don't remove the section versioning though in the future; set it to the latest version instead. It won't display for readers unless it is outdated, but removing it makes it harder to tell in the future if a section might be outdated. ~ Meneth (talk) 23:59, 26 June 2015 (CEST)

better relations over time[edit]

Is there a place in the UI to see the current modifier? I know only about Improve relations in the country diplomacy screen, below diplorep.Gendalf (talk) 17:35, 18 July 2015 (CEST)

Protective&Domineering attitude[edit]

I've never seen these 2 attitudes, do they even still exist in the game? Gendalf (talk) 16:23, 17 August 2015 (CEST)

Well, they are still in common\00_ai_attitudes.txt. They are probably triggered for really small nations only.--E boyd (talk) 22:08, 17 August 2015 (CEST)


I don't think diplo-annexing causes AE, after some hours spent with the game. I vaguely remember a message to that effect on the loading screens as well. Mindcorrosive (talk) 10:03, 29 August 2013 (CEST)

It doesn't, which is one of the major advantages of it. ~ Meneth (talk) 10:04, 29 August 2013 (CEST)

Historical friend[edit]

Thoughts on the possibility of creating a list of historical friends either here or in another article? Dauth (talk) 14:58, 9 February 2016 (CET)

I imagine a list detailing such factors of diplomatic relations at 1444 [not just historical rivals/friends] might be useful to strategy writers. It will have to be more prominent for them to find it though. ~ SolSys (talk) 20:28, 9 February 2016 (CET)

List of relations[edit]

Is here the best place for it or should we have another page? Dauth (talk) 11:45, 26 August 2016 (CEST)

Depends on the size. If it would overwhelm this article, it should be a separate article. Otherwise, it should be here. Compassionate727 (talk) 13:59, 26 August 2016 (CEST)

Merge of 'relations_decay_of_me' and 'improve_relation_modifier'[edit]

As stated by Johan ( ), "We also merged the 'relations_decay_of_me' modifier into 'improve_relation_modifier'. They were basically the same functionality, and this makes the game easier to understand."

So, the template:bonus_table for relation over time should not show: 'The modifier “better relations over time” was removed with patch 1.19.' The only thing that changes is the name of the variable. So Italian tradition, Humanist-Diplomacy policies etc... still have the same effect and should be in the table. Maybe is there a new bonus table to create to keep consistancy ? -- FrogCrusher (talk) 12:52, 22 January 2017 (CET)

The game does't understand 'relations_decay_of_me' (Better Relations Over Time) anymore. So does the {{bonus table}} template. The error message might not be optimal and 100% correct. (I've changed the message now - hopefully in your sense.) The template is up to date. Perhaps you try {{bonus table|improve relation modifier}}. – Lillebror (talk) 13:33, 22 January 2017 (CET)