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Daimyo national ideas[edit]

Shouldn't we work this in the page somewhere? It's pretty Japan-relevant, as I don't think there's a Daimyo page here. Pinpinolo (talk) 05:11, 27 September 2013 (CEST) EDIT - Whoops, forgot to sign

Yep, though putting seems a bit of a challenge, layout-wise. Feel free to take a crack at it--General Baker Great Britain.png (Talk | Contribs) 09:44, 27 September 2013 (CEST)

Okay, I put it in. Not 100% sure about the look. Thoughts? Pinpinolo (talk) 13:38, 27 September 2013 (CEST)

I suppose that works. ~ Meneth (talk) 13:43, 27 September 2013 (CEST)

Redone Chrysanthemum Throne[edit]

I've completely revamped the Chrysanthemum Throne section, being as it was horribly done before. (The Date section lacked proper grammar, not to mention the fact that achieving this as Date is a pipe dream. The Hosokawa section was not in the proper person, and was more a collection of a person's preferences than a complete guide, and the Uesugi section just redirected you to a Youtube series.) I've removed the Uesugi and Date sections and have edited the Hosokawa so that the section is more comprehensive and clear on how to get the achievement.

I changed it for how I managed it last night. If someone better can clean it up that would be lovely. 14:52, 22 October 2014 (CEST)

I'll be changing it back to they way it was before since, frankly, your way is horribly inefficient. There was no need to change the strategy as the previous guide was much more meticulous and comprehensive.
The current guide is far better written. Feel free to expand on it to cover any info lost, but don't roll it back to the old version. The new guide is a lot easier to read. ~ Meneth (talk) 23:21, 25 October 2014 (CEST)
Okay, looking more closely, I'm not sure which guide is best. As I haven't played in Japan, it is hard for me to judge. I've restored the old version for now, but it seems likely it needs some improvements so as to meet the style guidelines. ~ Meneth (talk) 23:27, 25 October 2014 (CEST)
I'll clean it up. Japan's been my main game, and usually most people's strategy is to conquer all the other Daimyo as a Daimyo then attack the Shogunate to save themselves the trouble of having to fight dozens of unruly daimyo later, as well as the possibility of a foreign power snatching up a province or two. I'll clean up the older one to be more comprehensive. -- Anonymous

What counts as a start date?[edit]

Amako/Amago and Asakura are listed on the article as existing in 1444. Asakura doesn't, end of. Amako/Amago has a core in 1444 but no provinces. Does that count as a start date, or should it be set to the time when Amako/Amago gains a province?

No, it needs to be changed. Nations only exist if they hold provinces, not if they just have cores. -- Anonymous

No longer called Japan[edit]

After MoH Japan is now known as "Ashikaga", but with an event that forms Japan once the islands are united. I don't know if i should rename this one or create a new for Ashikaga. This page mostly resembles Ashikaga and not Japan. --Asg0noir (talk) 14:31, 7 April 2017 (CEST)

I thinkl the Wiki needs two pages. One for Ashikaga and one for Japan. The page for Japan can be short, perhaps without a strategy, as for the most other formable countries. – Lillebror (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2017 (CEST)
Sounds like a sensible approach. Perhaps with a short description of the shogunate mechanic and a list of all the daimyos etc similar to steppe hordes page - even if they are irreverent after the formation of japan. ~ SolSys (talk) 14:33, 8 April 2017 (CEST)
So we need just one page, called "daimyos". Is should list all daimyos and all of their unique ideas, as well as their common mechanics. Let's start developing it first , and after it's started we can redirect people from the japan page --Mikroself (talk) 21:47, 11 April 2017 (CEST)
We need a page for the mechanics, I mean the shogunate and its daimyos. Because the shogunate is not tied to a country the information about the shogunate should not be on a country page. – Lillebror (talk) 09:45, 12 April 2017 (CEST)